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  • #31
    bump for K's

    You can't fix something if you don't know how it works

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    • #32
      b for bullsh*t and k for kick-a$$ lol jk

      i like the b series because it suits my budget. later on, i'll go for the k series.

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      • #33
        i will have to disagree and say that i will choose a K-swap over B-swap any day. There is just so much potential with K's that its not even funny. Try squeezing over 210whp with just bolt-ons on a B. Not going to happen. Second, K swaps have gone significantly lower in price. I will agree that a turbo B-series can ultimately have more power than a standard k-swap. But a properly built B-series engine is costly as well. I dont know how some of you are building turbo engines with $2300 when thats the cost of a turbo kit in some cases :eek:. I wouldnt trust that to be too reliable.
        Third, you can even build frankenstein K's with a k24 bottom w/ a k20a2 head and push over 300whp!!. Thats amazing IMHO. Yes it is costly, but ultimately the K-swap shi!ts on the B-series. Dont get me wrong tho, I do love my itr's and gsr's, but when I see stock k20a dc5 type r swaps in an EG breaking 12s, you gotta admit its pretty sick. Check out this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ-VGRAacf8.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by A11motorA11day View Post
          Your not even frunting like you know what your talking about, any 1 here that has made any power or even has been thru more than 1 swap and cars or shells has spent well over that. This shiit adds up
          fronting like what if i wanted i can throw a k swap in my whip you feel me i work and my money is right but whats the point to sit at mcdonalds whit a bunch of niggas with slow ass b seriies talkin shit but cant keep up ima bout this money i love hondas and fast cars but i whether watch and have a pocket full of money and some fresh sneakers then have a fast whip and some dingy ass clothes on ................i aint knocking a nigga for spending the money just not how i will live my life
          Originally posted by BurnAll4S4
          white people suck

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          • #35
            yea k series have a lot more potential, then again it's more reliable then the b series. the engineers that designed the k knew what their doing.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by BB DC294 NHCT View Post
              yea k series have a lot more potential, then again it's more reliable then the b series. the engineers that designed the k knew what their doing.
              i def have to disagree with that statement.. on the factory level stock for stock. we see a signifigantly higer amount of failures on k series then we did b series. everything from bad cam lobes, cams seizing, timing chains jumping, bottom end noises, oil & coolant leaks, missfires etc. the k series does have potential, but the b series was hands down more reliable. only thing we saw were cam plugs leaking and on the early ones dist bearings go bad..
              and as far as making bolt on power from a b series.. i have built several with basic mods and have made over 200 whp on pump gas stock bore, no head work.

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              • #37
                ^^When I stated basic bolt-ons, I was referring to I/H/E. A stock b-series engine will never see 200whp with those bolt ons, even an C5 with a tune. Its hard enough to reach 200whp w/pistons and cams let alone just I/H/E. And if you claim to build an engine that has over 200whp with those bolt ons please show me some dyno graphs or something and I will be glad shut my case. As for being reliable, there have been some horror stories about B-series as well. See what you have to understand is that the K motor is relatively still a new swap compared to the B-series. Don't get me wrong though I love the B-series, and I think the B18C J-spec ITR motor is one of the most well build motors to come from factory by any manufacturer but stock for stock a K engine will out perform any B anyday period.
                Last edited by it0sls203; 11-30-2008, 09:30 AM.

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                • #38
                  for the people who never been in a kswapped car, stfu
                  13203
                  I DO REMOTE STARTS!

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                  • #39
                    when a properly running k-swaped car! ;)
                    NHSWAPS13203 > *

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                    • #40
                      ya not a under 200whp with cams. im talkin one thats on point like a arrow
                      13203
                      I DO REMOTE STARTS!

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                      • #41
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                        NHSWAPS13203 > *

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by NHSwaps13203 View Post
                          for the people who never been in a kswapped car, stfu
                          Definitely agree with this statement. Only reason im so biased toward K-swaps is because I've taken a ride in a few cars with the swap. A friend of mine in NY have a dc4 w/ k24a2 and a type S tranny and the thing is sick.

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                          • #43
                            for $10k just buy yourself an aftermarket model t rolling chassis and drop in a v8 and eat the k's and turbo b's for breakfast and shit them out for dinner :D

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by it0sls203 View Post
                              i will have to disagree and say that i will choose a K-swap over B-swap any day. There is just so much potential with K's that its not even funny. Try squeezing over 210whp with just bolt-ons on a B. Not going to happen. Second, K swaps have gone significantly lower in price. I will agree that a turbo B-series can ultimately have more power than a standard k-swap. But a properly built B-series engine is costly as well. I dont know how some of you are building turbo engines with $2300 when thats the cost of a turbo kit in some cases :eek:. I wouldnt trust that to be too reliable.
                              Third, you can even build frankenstein K's with a k24 bottom w/ a k20a2 head and push over 300whp!!. Thats amazing IMHO. Yes it is costly, but ultimately the K-swap shi!ts on the B-series. Dont get me wrong tho, I do love my itr's and gsr's, but when I see stock k20a dc5 type r swaps in an EG breaking 12s, you gotta admit its pretty sick. Check out this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ-VGRAacf8.
                              I have been doing this for a while... so I got people that own machine shops ( discount) Shops that get me things for cost ( discount) and skill no labor... the only thing I had to buy at full cost was the golden eagle LS-V kit and my whip has been running strong for over two years as I go up on boost... You just gotta be able to know people that will throw you good deals....
                              Last edited by Freeway; 11-30-2008, 07:02 PM.
                              13TH
                              DEV-ILL

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                              • #45
                                ^Im not doubting your skill in building reliable engines. My intentions aren't to offend you or anyone else on this site. Im just trying to share my opinions and knowledge. Obviously discounts are great when available and saving money is always smart. Anyways don't want to get on a tangent, and stay on topic. K>B.

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